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Ross

Live to work? Work to... work some more?

Posted by Ross Nov. 28, 2007 @ 1:59 PM EST

Recently I re-watched one of my favorite movies, The Insider. It's about Jeffrey Wigand, a former executive at the Brown & Williamson tobacco company, one of the companies commonly referred to as "Big Tobacco". After being fired, he comes into contact with a producer at 60 Minutes who eventually convinces him to blow the whistle on his former employer's shady dealings in a taped interview. Much legal wrangling and corporate maneuvering follows, CBS won't air the interview, Wigand's life begins to crumble, and just when it looks like Big Tobacco is going to win yet again, redemption arrives. It's a great film and if you haven't seen it, you definitely should.

Much of the movie takes place in the 60 Minutes offices, and I was always struck with how they portrayed everyone working there as so impassioned and driven - it's not that they have jobs, it's that they are their jobs. They make journalism look romantic - the opposite of a 9-5 job where you draw a paycheck and go home.

I'm down with that. I never thought of "work" as simply something you do to get money, which you use to go enjoy the non-work portion of your life. I always wanted to have a job I cared about and took pleasure in - there's the old saying, "if you find a job you love, you'll never work a day in your life." It's kind of a cliche, but I buy into it.

Still, I know not everyone looks at it the way I do. I have lots of friends who take the Office Space approach - find a job you don't entirely hate, earn your salary, and go home. Not everyone has to be passionate about their job, and I respect that.

Lately I've been insanely busy, between doing my NG work, my assignments for my two grad school classes, and maintaining my "side project" MyFootballPool. I truly enjoy all three of these things, but together, the workload is wearing me down, to the point of wanting to run away from it all to an island somewhere with no electricity.

I used to have a 9-5 job that was easy and paid well. The actual work I did was mostly boring, but in retrospect, that was a pretty happy time in my life. I made a lot of friends, I was able to enjoy my life outside of work, and all that made the work itself bearable. Contrast then with now, when I have lots of good work to do, but I'm overwhelmed and feel like I'm just trying to get through one task so I can get to the next one, never having time to relax. I'm not getting to spend enough time with my family & friends, and my workout schedule is suffering.

Wigand has a line in The Insider where he says, in contrast to working for Big Tobacco, "Can you imagine me coming home from some job, feeling good at the end of the day?" Should this be of primary importance when thinking about our jobs? Is it more important to have a job that's fulfilling and makes you feel good, or one that doesn't intrude on the rest of your life?

Maybe I don't need a job that's completely absorbing, as I've always thought. Or maybe I have an addictive personality and need to figure out how to have a job without being consumed by it.

Or maybe I'm just burned out on my schoolwork and need a vacation.

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Nov. 28, 2007 | 2:15 PM Rig says:

I prefer the "find a job you love, and you'll never have to work a day in your life" approach. That's why I chose Electroacoustics over Electrical Engineering - even if I'll make less money, I'll be having way too much fun to care. :)
The career I've chosen will mean that I'll be working from sunrise to sundown, whenever inspiration strikes. A 9-5 job is good in regards to being able to separate your job from your other life. I'd rather be working constantly and enjoy it than having to drag myself to work every day.

Nov. 28, 2007 | 3:38 PM Ross responds:

Kudos to you. Yeah - a job where you dread going in will shorten your life. I was a mover during the summer in high school and the beginning of college, and it was a soul-crushing existence. I can't imagine how people do it for 20-30 years.


Nov. 28, 2007 | 2:59 PM AcDiK-DR4G0N says:

I believe that you should find a happy balance between a good salary and a good job. Like the poster before me, sometimes you have to take that little salary dodge to enjoy your work more.

Nov. 28, 2007 | 3:24 PM Ross responds:

For me, salary has little to do with job satisfaction. I always felt that if you're doing something that's "right" for you, the money/bills/etc will work itself out (provided you don't have bad conspicuous consumption habits).


Nov. 28, 2007 | 6:11 PM Momo-the-Monkey says:

While I do think all of this is true, and some of the times it works, I do have to point out the phrase "If turn what you love to do into a job, you won't like it as much."

I just hope that never happens to me, or anyone for that matter. But I think doing the same thing for 20-30 years would be horrible. Unless the job let's you move around a lot, and do different things....

Nov. 30, 2007 | 12:36 PM Ross responds:

I don't think that applies in all cases. For me - I started writing code in college for fun. I started working on NG for fun, and when it became an official job, it was still fun (and is today). Programming is my job, and I still do it in my "spare time" because I enjoy it. So maybe it's a function of your depth of interest in a given area.

I guess it depends how multi-faceted a field is, too. There are so many different aspects to programming, and there's always so much to learn - I can't imagine my interest in it ever waning.

I think that phrase often gets used when people have a hobby and want to turn it into a business. I'm big into comics, but if I tried to open a comic book store, for example, there would be a million stresses unrelated to me enjoying reading comics. I think "I like doing XYZ - why not get paid for it?" is the way to go.


Nov. 29, 2007 | 1:48 AM Rig says:

I'm afraid about Momo's phrase coming true :S
In that case, I'll find a new hobby. Some Pixar employees got their jobs by doing what they love (drawing, I think), so they found a new hobby. Photo manipulation. And that's how Photoshop got invented.
lol
I hope I invent Photoshop some day.


Nov. 29, 2007 | 2:06 AM FrozenFire says:

Working on a popular website doesn't sound to rigorous, but yes, I can see school as a big pain in your side.

Also I like the fact that Wigand did that. It's great to see big things happening that could help out the Truth organization as well.

I really hope I enjoy my job, that's the only reason I'm working so damn hard in high school, and will in college ( along with a few parties ;D ) I really want to do something I love to do :)

Nov. 30, 2007 | 12:30 PM Ross responds:

"Working on a popular website doesn't sound too rigorous"... yeah, there's nothing to it. :P


Nov. 30, 2007 | 12:26 PM MindChamber says:

sounds like somebody needs a hug :*(

Nov. 30, 2007 | 12:30 PM Ross responds:

Are you offering??


Nov. 30, 2007 | 5:25 PM BoMToons says:

I'm on the same page with you, I have friends who have taken the "work for the weekend" type jobs while others, myself included, have gone the "work all the time because work is my hobby too" route, and I respect both sides. They both have their perks and shortfalls.

The main shortfall I struggle with is family...When work consumes your time and no project is ever finished completely, then it takes a lot of discipline to carve out "me time" or time with your wife and kids (if applicable). So sometimes I envy my friends who have that quality time automatically built into their lives.

Dec. 1, 2007 | 5:06 PM Ross responds:

Yep, I hear you. That's my dilemma too.


Nov. 30, 2007 | 6:45 PM Jamoke says:

I remember that flick. I was disappointed when Pacino wasn't nominated for an Oscar yet Crowe was. Another disappointment when it didn't win for best writing or best picture. There was so much obvious effort put into the dialogue, but it was hard to beat the film that actually won, I think it was probably American beauty since it practically swept that year. Tough competition there.
Why take a vacation? You live in Jersey, every day should be like an adventure. I know when I want a little excitement I just take the train to Camden, head to a bar and then try to stagger back home at 2a.m. without getting stabbed. More fun than Six Flags, more challenging than Sudoku. Next year I'm going to try south Philly.
Take a week off, have dinner with the fam and get some sleep.

p.s. - love the banner. F.M.'s "Dark Night Returns" = greatest graphic novel ever.


Dec. 2, 2007 | 7:19 PM SevenSeize says:

I'm burned out on work and needing a vacation as well.

Who's up for a holiday?


Dec. 3, 2007 | 2:38 AM WritersBlock says:

I'm jobless. But I'm applying for a job at a CD shop. I COULD have just as easily gone to a supermarket and got a job packing shelves, but I love my music, and I enjoyed working there last year, surrounded by the music, the other staff felt the same way, but on the other side, if they can't get any work for me, I'll have to grit my teeth and try elsewhere. I think the important thing is that bigger picture, your future goals. You go to uni and slog your ass off with homework and assignments (that's what I assume, anyway) so that you can reap the reward at the end. You also need to pay fees, books etc, so you need to get a part time job, and it's difficult to get consumed by it when your mind is on the fifty thousand assignments due tomorrow.

But it comes down to the bigger picture, the reason why you're there in the first place, so sometimes you have to work jobs that you don't want to do, in a way, you have to work for money, the bills don't pay themselves. And when you're through it all, you can get that job you so badly wanted... and it'll be a dud. Haha, nah, if you worked that hard to get your dream job, you should be able to enjoy it, and if your jobs on the side are something that interests you aswell, that's fantastic.

As good as a dream job sounds, there's always a hitch concerning practicality, am I smart enough, do I have the dedication, do I have the money, will I be able to live off the money it brings when I get there. I wanted to become a musician, but I didn't have the skills, the dedication to practice all hours of the day, and I knew there was a slim chance that I could maintain a lifestyle off the job if I got there, so I had to go for something more practical, something I also enjoy, and something I can live off, music is my hobby, I work with music for leisure, and hopefully, my future career will also be equally pleasurable.

Good luck finding what you want out of life.


Dec. 3, 2007 | 2:42 AM Afro-Ninja says:

Agreed. I have to remember how lucky I am, to be able to have a job that I enjoy. Sometimes I wonder what I would be doing if I didn't get into computers. I have many friends in college that pick majors they don't overly care about... and if I were in their position, I probably would too.

This whole flash/internet thing came along at the perfect time, and I couldn't be happier. I'm even able to work my own schedule. But I still get burnt out. Recently I had almost no interest in flash, waking up and dreading opening up the program. So many unfinished projects. And then there's the mildly depressing side, the fact that working from home offers very little outside communication, aside from the AIM buddy list.

But with me, I realized that I just need change. Significant change. Not just a new type of flash game, but a medium altogether. I've started messing around with video production, and it takes me back to my early days of flash.. where something as simple as correctly implementing a video transition seems exciting.

Of course it's temporary, I can't relive that constantly, but it makes me realize that I'm not losing my creativity, my drive, or my love for my work. I just need to keep changing, at least trying to do something different. Anything else feels cheap. Once I become more accustomed to video stuff I don't know what my next 'thing' will be, but I feel safe knowing that I'm still going down the right path.

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