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Movies I'm Obsessed With: Zodiac

Posted by Ross Sep. 28, 2007 @ 3:14 PM EDT

I'm tired of movies/books/TV shows about serial killers. It's such an overdone idea - I think there must be 100 times as many movies about serial killers as there are actual serial killers in the world. I don't get off on morbidity, so I skip most of it.

That said, what makes Zodiac (directed by the awesome David Fincher, released in March 2007) so compelling and different? The biggest reason is that it's real. The movie is best described as "historical fiction" - it bends some characters around to help create a good story, but the man who called himself "The Zodiac" at the middle of it all really did terrorize the San Francisco bay area during the late 1960s / early 1970s, and was never caught. The film stays very true to the facts of the case - not hard to do, as the story of the Zodiac is more captivating than most crime fiction.

The movie gets through the Zodiac's killings fairly quickly and then shifts its focus to the people that try to unravel the mystery - first the police, and years later, amateur Zodiac-phile Robert Graysmith. He becomes obsessed with the Zodiac and in some ways, that's what the film is about - the drive to find a concrete answer to a long-standing mystery, when in reality, we may have to learn to live with the fear and ambiguity. Graysmith seems certain that the Zodiac was Arthur Leigh Allen, but it's never been proven (beyond a mountain of circumstantial evidence), and since Allen died in 1992, we'll likely never know for sure. And there are more than a few people who disagree with Graysmith's conclusions.

When I saw this movie, I became temporarily obsessed with it too. I devoured Graysmith's best-seller about the Zodiac killings, along with anything I could find online.

There's also the matter of the still-unsolved 340-symbol cipher that the Zodiac mailed to the San Francisco Chronicle on 11/8/69. Graysmith (and a few others) have submitted what they feel are solutions to the cipher, but they've never been accepted by the authorities (they're sloppy). I fantasize about cracking the code and revealing some previously unknown fact that points more conclusively to Allen as the Zodiac - and I even have a way to try it that may not have been attempted before (writing a computer program that uses an evolutionary algorithm to figure it out). One day, when I get more time, I'm going to give it a shot.

Memorable moments from the movie:

-- "Hurdy Gurdy Man" by Donovan, played during the first Zodiac killing, at the very beginning of the movie. I'll never be able to hear that song again without getting chills (including during the film's credits).

-- The second killing, which I can't watch - it's just too disturbing. Reading about it in the book almost made me pass out (it's much worse in the book than in the movie).

-- SFPD Inspector Armstrong attempting to coordinate via phone with the Napa and Vallejo Police Departments. What a jurisdictional and information-sharing nightmare - is it any better, today?

-- Dave Toschi losing it when the evidence (handwriting, fingerprints, ballistics) says that Arthur Leigh Allen is not the Zodiac; much later, Toschi accepting Graysmith's contention that Allen must have been Zodiac: "Jesus christ."

-- Graysmith staring down Allen at the hardware store. This is the "money shot" scene of the movie.

-- Mike Mageau (Zodiac survivor and only person to have seen the killer's face) finally turning up in 1991, in the movie's final scene, and identifying Allen as the man who shot him. How would the Zodiac case be different if that had taken place twenty years earlier? Wow.

All in all, I love this movie. Definitely worth checking out, if you haven't seen it.

EDIT: Boy, this site really pokes a lot of holes in the movie's (and the book's) facts. Maybe it really wasn't Allen. Maybe the Zodiac is still out there...

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Sep. 28, 2007 | 11:09 PM silentkat says:

Yeah, Xodiac was a great movie. Just kind of creepy. But I love i to death.


Oct. 2, 2007 | 3:50 PM Murphinator says:

Yeah that scene with "Hurdy Gurdy Man" playing in the background is really creepy.


Oct. 3, 2007 | 10:47 PM DFox says:

I couldn't agree more, AMAZING movie.

There was something about it that just made me enthralled. The movie just makes you think and think some more. It's one of those movies where after you watch it you're not done because you want to know so much more. The funny part is you can see how Graysmith became obsessed.

Who do you think did it? Personally, I think it was Allen just based on the airport scene, which like the rest of the movie, was pretty riveting.

Also, I can't recall which was the second killing. Do you mean the stabbing by the water? That was a little gory but you didn't really see much, plus the guy lived.

Oct. 8, 2007 | 5:33 PM Ross responds:

It is easy to see how people get sucked into this case. So many clues, so much uncertainty... did the fingerprint that ruled out 2,500 suspects even belong to the Zodiac? Was the Zodiac behind the Riverside killing? He claimed to have killed 30+ people, but only 5 (+2 survivors) are known for sure.

If you watch the movie, Graysmith (and, I've read, Fincher) think that it was Arthur Leigh Allen. But there are differing accounts online that dispute the facts of the case. The movie portrays the infamous interview where Allen seems to implicate himself repeatedly as an obvious sign that he was the Zodiac. But other things I've read characterize it as Allen messing with the cops - and if he's not the Zodiac, why not? He had nothing to lose.

It's a really tough call, and I think that's another one of the movie's themes - how we subconsciously steer the "facts" in a certain direction when we want/need something to be true. Graysmith needed to finish his book, and was fixated on solving the mystery - look at how forcefully he tells Darlene's sister in jail that the man's name was Rick (as she's saying it wasn't), almost as if he's stating a fact. But what was that assumption based on? He assumed that Rick Marshall was the Zodiac until he got someone better (Allen). Maybe what we take as "fact" is really just the best thing we've got in front of us at the moment.

I love the film and I want to believe that it's Allen, but in a sense I think that the big message of the movie is "don't believe the movie". So I guess I'd have to say I'm a Zodiac agnostic - I don't think "who was the Zodiac?" is an answerable question.

That airport scene was great, wasn't it? Ending the movie on that note (with the stare-down between Graysmith and Allen just before it) was perfect.

When I said "second killing" I meant the two at Lake Berryessa, where the guy got stabbed and survived, and the girl didn't. You don't see gore in that scene, but getting hog-tied and then pounced on like that by the Zodiac? And the girl's scream... The psychological terror of the scene is what gets me. (The book goes into further detail on it - apparently the lake was so remote that they had to just sit there and bleed/scream for hours.)


Oct. 6, 2007 | 3:01 PM snapper5 says:

i'll watch it when i can, thanks for the tip


Oct. 8, 2007 | 9:32 AM Kerpizzle says:

I saw it about 2 weeks ago.

It was okay, but there is only one time where something creepy happens, and the people dont even die in that part.

I liked the movie, I guess, but I thought it was a little anti-climactic.
The ending was okay, that guy gets what he deserves.

Oct. 8, 2007 | 5:41 PM Ross responds:

The movie's more about psychological terror than physical stuff. The attacks are brutal and brief - it's more about the lingering fear afterwards that never ends, but does a slow burn over the years to come.

And if the movie was anti-climactic, I think it was intentional, because that's how real life is - nice pat endings only exist in made-up stories, which the Zodiac most certainly isn't. And that's why it's more frightening than any fictional story could be.

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